​Where the Rivers Meet (WTRM) Website


Project of Jelena Markov, Phd Student in Philosophy

​The Metaphysics of Love Project is an interdisciplinary investigation into the nature of romantic love, supported by a Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada Insight Grant entitled The Nature of Love. We are conducting an exciting and experimental three-year collaboration involving philosophers and poets, with both academic and creative outputs.

The project is running from 2016 to 2019, following a successful pilot project that ran from 2014 to 2016 (funded by a Hampton Research Grant from the University of British Columbia


Jelena Markov - PhD Student in Philosophy

The Philosophy of Love podcast is an interdisciplinary look at the nature of love, hosted by Jelena Markovic. Each episode we talk with a philosopher, artist or scholar about a different facet of love.

The Philosophy of Love podcast is part of the Metaphysics of Love project.

You can reach Jelena at phillovepodcast@gmail.com.


...the radio station are great ideas! (I especially like WTRM as call letters.) I ought to volunteer, but I can’t. I have recently taken on editorship of a poetry series (Oskana Poetry and Poetics), focussed on environment and indigenous justice, and have my hands full. But let me know if you get either of the journal or radio station set up and I will help you spread the word

​Nice idea: good luck. I would be happy to do this, although I am not confident that the interview would be of great interest to you.​

I think it’s very good that you are starting on this search.  One idea:  I could forward your questions to others in my department who might have something to contribute.  What do you think?

.....really interesting.  Likely I would not have much to offer.  One possible exception:  the concept of reconciliation.  (relation to trust/levels of analysis)

.... WTRM sounds like a great idea! Is it a podcast? I'd love to hear any episodes you've recorded. I'd be happy to talk over the phone, provided that we could find topics that I knew anything about that were relevant to your interests!​

It would be a pretty boring, even frustrating interview, but I could do one.​

Sure.  I hope I can contribute something.  But I am a bit unsure what it could be.

I don’t think i would make a very good interview subject; you should be looking for people with an existing public profile, such as Mark Kingwell or John Borrows — you need to have meetings of rivers, not creeks like me.

Sure I'd be happy to talk.

I would be happy to do an interview with you if you think it would be valuable. Sending me the questions is a great idea, because my answers will be more likely to be coherent if I can think about them in advance.​

Everything I do now is influenced and shadowed by my attempts to understand colonialism, indigeneity, settlerhood and the like. I am finding it extremely rich because it requires me to rethink vast segments of myself, my history and my understanding of the world that I live in. It teaches me about the nature of selfhood, the role of identity, helps me to understand concepts of resistance and resilience, informs my understanding and appreciation of beauty


WTRM Internet Radio

"Where the Rivers Meet"


​INTERNET RADIOis an excellent way in which to talk about and showcase indigenous thinkers an artists.   The radio station will focus on interviewing indigenous philosophers, connect with other radio stations that are doing similar work, document what philosophers (both indigenous and non-indigenous) are thinking in relation to the place and role of indigenous thinking, and any thinking  around how indigenous thought can be in conversation with western philosophy.


Radio Free Kwantlen is a funding area of the Kwantlen University Student Association (KUSA) and it's purpose is provide an online broadcast programming centered around university life at Kwantlen. It will offer unique music, news and culture shows. The obligation of this station, and all those involved, is to reach out to the multi– cultured environment and offer a medium for free speech and expression.  

To meet these stated objectives, the proposed purposes of WTRM Radio and Radio Free Kwantlen will be to:

  1. Focus on the works and thinking of Indigenous philosophers via interviews, book reviews, book discussions, etc.

  2. To engage with non-native philosophers about their views and relationships academically to the idea of indigenous philosophy.

  3. To support an indigenous philosophy "book club" of sorts that will discuss books with panels and/or the authors. 

  4. To highlight indigenous artists, (special) events, KPU initiatives for indigenous students and/or indigenous/university initiatives for students in general.

  5. To incorporate non-verbal and oral traditions of thinking and how they are organized in indigenous community - an anthropological perspective.
  6. To reach-out to the multicultural society through the creation of programming that is designed as a direct discussion between groups (i.e. Sikhi or Islam focuses on Indigenous philosophy as general education efforts).
  7. Maintain an openess to new ideas from indigenous poeples around programming and radio format. 

Outstanding Questions

  1. To create an online radio station one needs a computer, software and a microphone.  Who will be providing that?  What are the costs?
  2. In addition, I want to be able to phone people and do over the phone or Skype interviews:  do we have a long-distance plan and what is KUSA's arrangement with Skype, or other video-conferencing ability?
  3. Part of what I want to create and share with Radio Free Kwantlen as a starting point is podcasts; while this may be the intellectual property of KUSA, is there a way of making a sharing agreement so that I can post them on WTRM Internet Radio once I have that "up and running"?  Acknkowleging Radio Free Kwantlen as the source and owner of course. 
  4. How will "broadcast rights' be managed?  How will legal issues of playing music, etc. be handled by the radio station?  Are there any templates available via universities and colleges that already have radio stations?
  5. What can be involved in training?  How will this be achieved?  I would like to be trained in a) recording shows (i.e. software), b) broadcasting shows,c) cue up tunes and speak between the tunes.  etc..  
  6. Issues raised by community radio http://www.communityradiotoolkit.net/on-air/programming/

  • Type your paragraph here.

    PROPOSED NAME: To be used on Radio Free Kwantlen is "the" Indigenous Thoughts Radio Program

    PROPOSED START UP PROGRAMMING:  One (1) weekly program per week for 1 hour, to be a talk radio program with indigenous and non-indigenous philosophers, with some selected aboriginal music where I have permission to use.

    DEVELOPMENT OF A GROWTH AND SUSTAINABILITY PLAN FOR "Indigenous Thoughts Radio Program".  (Building an Audience - Philosophy, Anthropology, Sociology, KUSA Aboriginal Representative and Aboriginal bodies at KPU), etc.